Our Team


David Michael is the Pastor for the Next Generations at College Park Church in Indianapolis. David and his wife Sally have labored together in ministry with a strong commitment to casting vision and developing resources for the spiritual development of children in the home and at church. These resources reflect the passion for truth and the theological and doctrinal commitments that has marked the ministry of John Piper who was David and Sally’s pastor and ministry colleague for 33 years. These resources are now being used in hundreds of churches across the country and in various parts of the world through the ministry of Truth 78 (formerly Children Desiring God) which David and Sally co-founded in 1996. They have two adult daughters and three grandchildren.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum to Teach: My Purpose Will Stand
Favorite Fighter Verses: One of my favorite passages is Isaiah 46:9-11
Favorite Parenting Book: Some of my favorites include Shepherding a Child's Heart by Tedd and Margy Tripp and The Disciple Making Parent by Chap Bettis


Sally is a co-founder of Truth78 and has authored curricula and books that are all marked by a passion for developing God-centered resources for the spiritual development of children. For 16 years, Sally served as Minister for Children at Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, under the leadership of John Piper and her husband, David. Sally and David live in Indianapolis where they serve families at College Park Church. They enjoy spending time with their daughter Kristi, daughter Amy and her husband Gary, and three grandchildren.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum to Write and Teach: My Purpose Will Stand
Main Classroom Role: Teacher
Favorite Parenting Book: Instructing a Child's Heart by Tedd and Margy Tripp


Jill Nelson has taught Sunday school for more than 30 years. Her desire for God-centered, Gospel-focused, biblically rich teaching led her to write children’s and youth curriculum for Truth78. Some titles include: Jesus, What a Savior, The ABCs of God, To Be Like Jesus, and Your Word Is Truth. Jill also develops training seminars, articles, and other resources relating to children’s and youth ministry. She and her husband, Bruce, live in the Minneapolis area and enjoy spending time with their daughter Sarah and her husband Matt, son Jacob and his wife Amanda, and five grandchildren.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum to Write and Teach: Too difficult to choose!
Main Classroom Role: Teacher
Favorite Fighter Verse: "So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God."—1 Corinthians 10:31
Favorite Parenting Book: The Disciple Making Parent by Chap Bettis


Brian and his wife Cindy were drawn to the vision of Truth78 many years before Brian began his role as Executive Director. As parents, they wanted to train their five children to know and treasure Jesus as the only one who could satisfy the deepest need of their hearts. At Truth78, they found a vision for this ministry, and resources to equip them to nurture their children's faith. In 2006, the Lord redirected Brian's vocational efforts to join the ministry after a career in IT management. Brian enjoys teaching children and youth in the classroom and through Backyard Bible Clubs, and he seeks to encourage Bible memorization through the Fighter Verses Program. Brian also enjoys coaching basketball and trail running.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: Teach Me Your Way and Your Word is Truth
Main Classroom Role: Teacher
Favorite Fighter Verse: Impossible to answer...I could give you a long list


Steve is the director of communications, coming in to the role with over 20 years of experience leading communications teams at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Focus on the Family. He loves to lead family discipleship and to tell the Truth78 story. Steve and his wife Candice live in Louisville, KY with their four children.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: To Be Like Jesus
Favorite Fighter Verse: John 15:5
Favorite Parenting Book: Family Vocation by Gene Veith

Team_KurschnerTerry Kurschner, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE

Terry Kurschner came to serve as the Director of Finance after more than 30 years of experience as a business owner. Over the past 15 years of working in this ministry, he has grown to love the Truth78 vision that is impacting the next generation for Christ.

Favorite Fighter Verse: He did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?—Romans 8:32

Team_UrbanskiHolly Urbanski, CUSTOMER CARE MANAGER

Holly, our Customer Care Manager, has over two decades of experience as a Sunday School teacher and classroom team leader. She has served preschool and elementary students and families in both large and small churches. Holly has a special heart for equipping smaller churches for effective children's ministry.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: In the Beginning...Jesus
Main Classroom Roles: Teacher & Classroom Team Leader
Favorite Parenting Book: Making Brothers and Sisters Friends: How to Fight the Good Fight at Home by Sarah, Stephen & Grace Mally


Lori is a Partner Relations Specialist and loves working with donors, customers, and translators. She has served in children’s ministry as a small group leader, worship leader, preschool teacher, and as an administrator for family discipleship ministry. Lori is blessed to have two amazing daughters, two wonderful sons-in-law, and five adorable grandchildren.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: He Has Spoken By His Son
Main Classroom Role: Teacher & Worship Leader
Favorite Parenting Book: My Grandmother Is...Praying for Me: Daily Prayers and Proverbs for Character Development in Grandchildren by Susan Kelton, Pamela Ferriss, and Kathryn March


Suzy is a Customer Care Specialist with over 10 years of experience in children's ministry administration. She loves to partner with churches and individuals to teach the next generation to set their hope in God through curriculum and other resources. Suzy and her husband Matt live in Minnesota with their cat.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: Jesus, What a Savior!
Favorite Fighter Verse: Isaiah 40:30-31
Favorite Children's Book: God's Great Plan by Melissa Cutrera


Karen has been the Manager for Resource Development since 2004. She has the great joy and privilege of helping our authors and other writers within the ministry bring their work from rough draft to publication. Karen and her husband Tim live in Minnesota with two sweet little dogs.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: In the Beginning...Jesus
Favorite Fighter Verse: Titus 3:4-6
Favorite Children's Book: The Barber Who Wanted to Pray by R.C. Sproul


Nicole is an illustrator and graphic designer who has been illustrating for children’s literature and educational resources since graduating from art school in 2013. She has always had a passion for children’s ministry and was beyond excited when God’s path lead her to partner with Truth78. Nicole lives in Winnipeg, Canada, with her husband, Girish, and their cat, Paska.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: The ABCs of God
Favorite Fighter Verse: Galatians 6:9-10
Favorite Children's Book: The Biggest Story by Kevin DeYoung, illustrated by Don Clark


Annie has 10 years of experience as a Sunday school and Christian school teacher and administrator, as well as a Spanish-English interpreter and translator. She serves our Spanish-speaking clients by providing support through emails, phone calls, and curriculum and resource translation. She lives in western North Carolina with her husband and two daughters.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: My Purpose Will Stand
Favorite Fighter Verse: Isaiah 40:28-29
Favorite Children's Book: Jesus Is Most Special by Sally Michael, Goodnight Moon by Margaret Wise Brown, and Charlotte's Web by E.B.White


Betty is the volunteer manager of the Fighter Verses blog at Truth78. Together with her experience in Fighter Verses ministry, she has 18 years experience in discipleship of children using Truth78 curriculum. She and her husband Rick have two married sons, four precious grandchildren, and a German Shepherd named Sunny.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum to Write and Teach: To Be Like Jesus
Main Classroom Role: Teacher
Favorite Fighter Verse: Galatians 2:20

Team_StewardGary Steward, THEOLOGICAL EDITOR

Gary is a Theological Editor who loves the rich theological tradition of the past. He received his Ph.D in Church History and Historical Theology from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. Prior to this he was a pastor in Newfoundland, Canada. He now resides in Colorado with his wife and three kids, where he is an assistant professor of history at Colorado Christian University.

Favorite Fighter Verse: Isaiah 41:10
Favorite Children's Book: My Father's Dragon by Ruth Stiles Gannett

Team_WattersDeb Watters, BOARD MEMBER

Deb Watters serves as Vice-Chair of the Truth78 Board and is a homeschooling mom who has been active in children's ministry of over 15 years as a team leader, small group leader, and Backyard Bible Club host. She and her husband Mike are blessed with 7 children and 2 grandchildren. Deb is a former pharmaceutical financial analyst, founded a homeschool academy, and speaks to groups about God's faithfulness during her family's battle with pediatric cancer.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: My Purpose Will Stand
Favorite Fighter Verse: Isaiah 43:1-3
Favorite Parenting Book: Shepherding a Child's Heart by Tedd and Margy Tripp
Favorite Children's Book: The Seven Silly Eaters by Mary Ann Hoberman

Team_DonaldsonJohn Donaldson, BOARD MEMBER

John Donaldson serves as a Truth78 Board Member and has a passion for providing families with Gospel tools that will equip them to joyfully parent for the glory of God. John resides in Minneapolis with his wife Lorinda and their 10 children. He is a professor in the business college at the University of Northwestern St. Paul. Prior to that, he held a variety of senior marketing positions over a 24 year period with various companies including SC Johnson & Sons, Pepsi/YUM Brands, and Lifetouch.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: The ABCs of God
Favorite Fighter Verse: 2 Corinthians 12:9b

Team_RuddRon Rudd, BOARD MEMBER

Ron currently serves as the Family Discipleship and Men's Ministry Pastor at the Metropolitan Bible Church in Ottawa, Ontario and previously served for over 17 years as the Children's Ministry Pastor. Ron and his wife Ann have been married since 1978 and God has blessed them with 10 children (six biological and four adopted) as well as eight grandchildren. He loves to see parents understanding their high and holy calling to raise a godly generation. Ron's desire is to see the next generation be stronger spiritually than the present generation.

Favorite Truth78 Curriculum: The ABCs of God
Favorite Fighter Verse: Psalm 121:1-2
Favorite Parenting Book: The Disciple-Making Parent by Chap Bettis